Alberto - Comic #013 (C12)
Art by Fred Carter - © 1979 Chick Publications
First Published: July 7th, 2015
Part 2
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Commentators Jessica Andrew
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Sean | Fun fact: There is no evidence suggesting this story actually happened. Outside of a few references found in Christian apologetic books and websites (All of which seem to have gotten their information from Alberto's claims) I haven't been able to find any records of a Dona Isabela being executed by the Inquisition in 1559. Seems like the trial and execution of a cousin to the friggin' King of Spain would be something that they'd have written down in great detail. It's not like there was any shortage of IRL examples of the Inquisition's barbarity, Alberto is just that damn devoted to the lie. |
Jessica | She seems awfully calm for someone actively IN LABOR! I think the term you are looking for is "with child." Chick does know where babies come from, right? That weird neck thing the dude is wearing in the first panel always reminds me of that shitty movie "Wild Wild West." |
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Sean | Yeah, as much as the Evangelicals like to play the Martyr Card to satisfy their persecution complex, the real Spanish Inquisition was mostly targeted towards Jews and Muslims. When this wasn't the case, it would usually be a target for political reasons. Chances are she was carrying the King's bastard child or something like that, that is if this incident actually happened. |
Jessica | Catholics believe in "God." The Inquisition believed in "God." Nothing she is saying strikes me as particularly heretical and definitely doesn't make me think "witchcraft." You're stretching. Then again, no one expects the Spanish Inquisition, so who can say. |
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Sean | Sharp cloth torture? Yeah, outside of biblical sites recounting Alberto's story, there is no evidence of the Inquisition using this method. There was a similar technique, but the goal of it wasn't to shove the cloth down their throat to lacerate it, it was to give them the sensation of drowning. This was because the Inquisition was (officially speaking) forbidden from shedding blood, and would go out of their way to bypass this rule and exploit any loopholes. Also, it's kinda hard to get a confession out of a target when they're choking on their own blood. |
Jessica | Yeah, waterboarding has been in the news quite a bit in the last ten years or so. You aren't going to fool anyone with this. Or maybe Alberto is trying to say he has secret Jesuit Knowledge™ that the history books just won't tell you! |
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Sean | Real Historical Fact: Nothing indicates that Philip II had a cousin executed by the Inquisition at all. |
Jessica | Isabella the First of Castile was related to Philip I and brought crime to a new low in her region. She died in 1504 (not 1559) from unspecified illness (not execution). |
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Sean | A secret police within the Spanish Government? Somewhat true, though once again this was more of a feature of the Franco Regime rather than a long-standing Catholic conspiracy. |
Jessica | And the Hitler Regime. And the Stalin Regime. It's kind of what fascists do. |
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Sean | Yeah, sure. You got your name featured in the Spanish newspapers at the age of 17. I'm sure the Jesuit secret police worked very hard to purge it from public record since, y'know, no one can find the papers in question. I do like the expression on the Green Shirt Guy though, I had the same face the first time I read Dick Haefer's stuff. |
Jessica | Were "heretics" actually listed by name in the newspaper? That seems rather inefficient, expensive and time consuming to me. |
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Sean | The names of every Protestant minister and church goer? Yeah, I'm sure the computers of 1979 had the processing power and storage space for that. |
Jessica | The computer I had in 1994 didn't have a hard drive. You just swapped out these huge floppy disks. Wristwatches have more power than that these days. |
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Sean | "Yes, it won't be long now." Over 35 years since and the clock is still ticking. |
Jessica | Says the man in 1979. This is getting old. |
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Sean | Implications of a devil woman ruining the lives of innocent men because they can get away with false rape accusations? Jesus, Alberto was ahead of his time in all the wrong ways. |
Jessica | Fred Carter seems to be able to only draw one seductive woman. |
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Sean | AHHHH!!! TEXT WALL!!! |
Jessica | 'nuff said. |
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Sean | Yeah, I'm sure the Vatican has the power to bump off anyone in the world at any given point. Christ, the 9/11 truthers would tell Alberto he's being too paranoid! |
Jessica | His face here just seems to scream "I believe you have my stapler." |
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Sean | Y'know, this Costa Rican church has an awful lot of white people... |
Jessica | There's the same woman again. And this time she has the same hairdo as Gloria from "Marriage Mess." All these comics run together after a while. |
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Sean | If Carmen was able to seduce 17 boys and have them expelled, why didn't they just expel her? Oh right, because Women can get away with lying about these things. *rolls eyes* Alberto was born too soon, he should have partnered up with Jack Elam. |
Jessica | And there's Frank Miller without the facial hair. This IS "Marriage Mess"! |
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Sean | Actually, the Catholic Church's veneration of Mary doesn't run as deep as Alberto and Chick would like. Officially speaking, the Vatican has made it clear that Mary worship is analogously worship towards God. Honestly, it makes just about as much sense as honouring a certain Carpenter for being the Avatar of your God. |
Jessica | I like how indignant Jesus looks in the first panel. He is NOT going to pay a lot for this muffler! |
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Sean | Wait a second Alberto, you said this ID was issued in 1967? Odd, because he had been in the US since at least 1965, when he had a warrant for his arrest issued in New Jersey. Plus, his earlier accounts listed him leaving the church in 1952. Fact checking, yo! |
Jessica | He kind of looks like Eli Roth in that picture. |
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Sean | I'm just going to put the "Citation needed" here, I have a feeling we're going to need it very soon. |
Jessica | This is Aldolfo Nicolas, the so-called Black Pope. Does that look like an evil genius to you? |
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Sean | Damn it, another proselytizing section and I'm fresh out of humourous dismissals! |
Jessica | This is pretty cardboard, but there's the trademark suffering Jesus Christ is so fond of including in all of his tracts. |
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Sean | Gotta love these questionnaires, especially that VERY specific anti-Catholic prayer for salvation. |
Jessica | This picture of Alberto's mom doesn't look at all how she was depicted in the panels above. Is this more true to life or are they? |
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Sean | Well, that was the first installment of the "Alberto" series, and it is just as gloriously insane as we'd hoped. In a strange way, I wish he were still around to comment on the recent state of the world. One can only imagine the shenanigans he'd get into surrounding our current Pope. |
Jessica
Sean